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Thank you Professor Fano, for that information. If any of the folks who are in the chat room have additional information or were part of this fascinating aspect of the history of Chatham I'd be pleased to hear from them. Thank You, Roger Denk
Roger Denk <rdenk@redshift.com>
Monterey, CA USA - Mon 04/29/2002

Mr Denk, The Stepping Stones facility may have been part of the Cape Cod radar experiment in 1950 or thereabout that led to the formation of Lincoln Laboratory and the computerized air-defense system.
Carl Fano <cfano@ieee.org>
Chatham, Ma USA - Mon 04/29/2002

Diana..regarding that picture..I do see our sixth grade teacher..Mary Ellis and Davine Rogers and Joan Ruggles..but I can't come up with any more..Gordon..
Gordon
Chatham, USA - Mon 04/29/2002

To: Barbara Ann Levine...Just a suggestion..click on www.chathamcapecod.org/dining...
GBP
Chatham, USA - Mon 04/29/2002

Thank you Barry. Any other information that anyone has on the Stepping Stones Road facility would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Roger Denk
Roger Denk <rdenk@redshift.com>
Monterey , CA USA - Sun 04/28/2002

Thanks Dan for that interesting story. I have indeed heard of that house at the corner of sam ryder and old queen anne. I belive Dave Rogers grew up in that house and I heard they for some reason or other had to board up one of the bedrooms. Jared
Jared Fulcher <nativecapecod45@hotmail.com>
West Chatham, MA USA - Sun 04/28/2002

Ms. Lavine Chaathum is probably way too crowded to bother that time of year, besides most of the fish have worms in the summer. Sincerely, Ed Nikersun
Gunny's boy
USA - Sun 04/28/2002

Roger: It was an airforce radar installation in conjunction with MIT. All the crew lived in the brick house next to the Gulf station which is now Cumberland Farms. Some of the crew took post-graduate classes at Chatham High School.
Barry <barsyl4041@netzero.net>
Naples , FL USA - Sat 04/27/2002

Does anyone know the history of the apparent government facility was that was formerly located on Stepping Stones Road in Chatham? At one time and in some old Kelsey Air Views there appears to be a white radome there, and for a while in the 90s there were remnants of a chain link fence and a small building on the site. Now there is only a driveway, well-maintained, and a vacant lot with two large boulders ar the rear. If it were numbered it would be about 88 Stepping Stones Road. Thanks
Roger Denk <rdenk@redshift.com>
Monterey, CA USA - Sat 04/27/2002

Richard, Nice article on the CG36500. Thank you. Lisa
Lisa
USA - Wed 04/24/2002

hi there! i wonder if anyone can help me find a friend i lost contact with. her name is betsy dewing, daughter of tom and sally dewing. if anyone on cape cod reads this and knows her, or the family, please ask them to mail me, my name is maya and i was at school with betsy in india. many thanks, maya xxx
maya <elektrikangel@hotmail.com>
leeds, yorks uk - Wed 04/24/2002

Hi Georgia -Good picture of Freddie P's house..you must have taken that from the hill next to your Mother's home...soon I think I shall have a picture of Doc Keene in his Model A Pickup Truck taken in 1973...keep an eye out for it. Also CONGRATULATIONS on your 50th Wedding Anniversary coming in June. your cuz...Hilda
Hilda <htandhb@aol.com>
Chatham, Ma USA - Wed 04/24/2002

For all of you who are interested in what is happening with the CG36500 motor life boat used in the Pendleton rescue, please go to http://pasty.com/~barbspage/CG36500.html. There you'll find photos of the boat and the latest on the 50th reunion coming up in 3 weeks. Best regards from North Eastham
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@attbi.com>
North Eastham, USA - Tue 04/23/2002

Hello to all interested in seeing a picture of Freddie P, Allen's house as it was. It was across from the Acme Laundry in Chathamport. How that area has changed!! Georgia Robbins Jeffrey
Georgia Robbins Jeffrey <gjeffrey@conknet,com>
Webster, NH USA - Tue 04/23/2002

Hi Everyone! Sorry I haven't written in a while but i had some post op complications but Im getting better ( i hope! ). Well anyway I just had a quick question....my family might know the answer to this...ohw are we related to the guy that opened slater mill in pawtucket?? Ok write back. Love you guys...and kathy im sorry i made a typo before i meant i hadf to talk to you not my mom. Ok bye guys Lizzie
Elizabeth Matteson <bratri143@msn.com>
Cranston, RI USA - Mon 04/22/2002

Tim P......So glad to hear that Jackie Crosman is alive and well...Have known him since I was a youngster,he used to fish with my father,way back when...my mother used to tell some great stories about Jack and his escapades!!!I remember his first wife.Marcia when they used to live in Orleans and his first two children,a boy and a girl who must be around 50ish. I saw him last at Dougs' funeral which was 10 years ago,boy...tempus fugits!!!!Send my love the next time you talk to him..Diane
Diane Matteson Nickerson <dnick@neteze.com>
Santa Rosa, Ca. USA - Sun 04/21/2002

Seeing Jack Crossman's name elicited several memories. One of the more interesting characters that graced Chatham's shoreline, "Captain Springs" was, and probably still is, a gentleman. He kept his vessels (PILOT, HILARY ANN, CAPTAIN CARL, maybe others) neat as a pin, no easy task when making a living using a wooden boat.
Bob Ryder <bryder@c4.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 04/21/2002

Hi Lisa!The only ones I can add are:McClure,McKinley,Van Name,Pernie,Turner,Eisenburg,Frasier and Gould.No longer know many of them as a number have moved or died.I would be hard pressed to name most owners on Silverleaf,Water & School Streets.So many changes as in the rest of the town.
Tim Pennypacker
Chatham, USA - Sun 04/21/2002

Tim, Nora Hammond was I believe my Great Aunt, John Hammond was my uncle and my father, Sidney Hammond use to own the house next to your which was called Surside. We lived up in West Chatham off Barn Hill Rd and rented Surside in the summertime.
Keith E Hammond <KHamm67731@aol.com>
Palm Beach Gardens, FL USA - Sat 04/20/2002

Tim, do you know the people on Main Street in the village? I can name some on the ocean side: Masaschi, Gould, Fallon/ Bladon, Tuttle/Edge, Black/Odiaga/ Day and Hunt/MacNab/Tyler, Mayo/King/?, Berdan, Morgan/Halvar, Dutton/?, ?, Hawes House. On the West side: Atkins/Clark, Dumont/?, ?, Brown/Simonitch, Snow/?, Atwood,Hackett/?, Lang/Zaremba, Tuttle/Nickerson/Powers, Leon/Arnemann/ Scotnicki/Delaney, Jackman/?, Taylor, Andrew Harding/Jaeger/ Kastner/?, Woods/Phelps, Nadia?, Harding/Tuttle, ?/Buckley, Hammond, Hammond/Cassis.
Elizabeth Tuttle Edge <etedge@farrlawnet.com>
Cherry Hill, NJ USA - Sat 04/20/2002

Steve!You have found the dead mark,37 Locust Rd is in Orleans all according to "Dead Reckoning" however,there are certain parts of Orleans that are considered Eastham;much akin to certain parts of Harwich that are really Chatham:ie Did Josh Nickerson live in Chatham or East Harwich?Is Weaquaset in Harwich or Chatham?You and I know the real answers!:) smile!!Carol,and Steve, I rather think that Jackie Crosman is still alive and well and living in Sandwich,where he is married to a nice lady named Mary.As matter of fact, I talked with Jackie this evening and he sends best to everyone. Hillary,Jennifer and Erin are all doing well and with famlies of their own.Patty did pass on and was living in Eastham(yes,Steve Eastham for sure).Jackie has giving up fishing and lobstering, but is still putting in 40 hrs a week painting all at 76 yrs.**To Chris Holzner: Nora Hammond was one wonderful Lady,she lived two doors up from me and told me many stories of both my Dad and Grandfather when they were young.Her two grand-newphews,Paul and John Hammond still own the house across the street where her brother Capt.Francis Hammond lived.Nice to see you here and that you have a real contact with the Old Village.Jared, I shall get you those copies of photos of the "Wicked One". My Mom took the one you see in Marcia Monbleau's "Home Song" As Harry Hunt would have said to me"Christ BOY,that's enough Talkin for now! Don't you ever shut up?" All best T.
Tim Pennypacker <Capejustice@hotmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Sat 04/20/2002

Recollections: Nora Hammond was my great-great-aunt. I recall as a young child sitting on her back porch. My mother (Claire Hammond Holzner)remembers sitting on her porch watching July 4 fireworks when she was a girl in the late 40's.
Chris Holzner <renzloh@comcast.net>
Holland, PA USA - Sat 04/20/2002

Tim I would love to have copies of the pictures, thank you. It will probably help with my love of history of Chatham. I've seen only one picture of Wicked Walter in Homesong Chatham. That's a great book. Along with "Weathering a Century of Change". -Jared
Jared Fulcher <nativecapecod45@hotmail.com>
West Chatham, MA USA - Sat 04/20/2002

In answer to Seteve's question - Jackie Crossman died several years ago and I believe Pat has passed away too. She had cancer and she fought a valiant battle. Don't know where the girls are now - they are grown by now - possibly married......
Carol Kelley <kelleygamoo@aol.com>
Chatham, USA - Sat 04/20/2002

Tim! I don't have GPS either but my dead recokoning puts 37 Locust Road in Orleans!! Talking about Luther reminds me of Jackie Crossman, do you know of his whereabouts?
Steven Nickerson <snickersonbuilding@attbi.com>
North Chatham , MA USA - Sat 04/20/2002

Steve!You are somewhat correct,Orleans Eastham Line,which is to say he lives somewhat about East Sou East of Eastham and abit Nor East of Orleans.Or Better described as being 353' Nor West of some point in Chatham.At best Luther does live most assuredly due west of Lisbon!Got it? I've been to his house.I did not have a GPS at the time.All best T.
Tim
Chatham, USA - Fri 04/19/2002

Tim: Unless he has moved recently I think you would find Luther living in Orleans
Steven Nickerson <snickersonbuilding@attbi.com>
North Chatham, MA USA - Fri 04/19/2002

Jared! The "Wicked One" passed I think in 1961,though I'm not sure of the date(I'll find out) he died at the Frazier Nursing Home on Sea St. in Hyannis.He left his son Carlton (Brick) and grandson Luther (Lute) who is still very much alive and lives in Eastham.I have some fine photographs of him that my mother took over the years with my father and me all together. I would be happy to give you some copies if you would like.They are candid shots and not ones you would see at the Chatham Historical building.It would be nice for someone of your age to have photos of a truly wonderful man and gentleman of his kind.Glad you are interested!! T.
Tim Pennypacker <capejustice@hotmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 04/18/2002

When did Wicked Walter pass away? -Jared
Jared Fulcher <nativecapecod45@hotmail.com>
West Chatham, MA USA - Thu 04/18/2002

Hilda! P.S. (Know what you mean by your last comments re the "errors" made in the latest book!!!!) Jane
Jane <Clam Fetcher@aol.com>
USA - Wed 04/17/2002

Dear Hilda, You'll have to get that book....I thought sure that was you....the young lady with the long blonde ponytail! I never realized that you served in the U.S. Army. You must have had a very interesting tour! Glad to see you back on the CHATroom. Your entries are so interesting and informative.... Best regards, Jane
Jfane Harding Patterson <Clam Fetcher@aol.com>
West Chatham, MA USA - Tue 04/16/2002

I was in Chatham last night. Damn I miss that place but enjoyed the short time i spent there. My bf had never been but he got a nice little dose of Chatham Fog...Im surprised we didnt end up in Chatham Light. Ok that is all for now talk to everyone later. I will be back to visit shortly. Kathy If you can drop me a quick email I have a question about the apartment in back of the shop!!! Love You Guys Lizzie p.s. Uncle Kenny where the hell are you?!?!!?!?!?
Elizabeth Matteson <bratri143@msn.com>
Cranston, RI USA - Tue 04/16/2002

Dear Jane - Looking back over these items, I noticed yours about the "coupon line." No. you did not insult me, but in those days, I was away from Chatham serving in the US Army..so it could not have been "yours truly." Trust that someday I will see that book...understand that there are many mistakes in some of the newly published books.Won't make any comment about that either...Hilda
Hilda <htandhb@aol.com>
Chatham, Ma USA - Sun 04/14/2002

Don!I'm sorry to hear of Lillian's passing! She was one grand and find Lady! And one who did more for Chatham than many will ever know.She put up with most anything but always put her family and her town first!God bless her!! Also,Lt.Clayton Buck "Bucky" one of Chatham's truly finest Police officers;would that we had his kind around today!May God bless his soul also.A chapter in Town has closed! T.
Tim Pennypacker <capejustice@hotmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 04/12/2002

I AM SAD TO REPORT THAT MRS. T.W. NICKERSON (LILLIAN ) PASSED LAST EVENING, SHE WAS A GRAND OLD LADY AT 97 YRS YOUNG. SHE WILL BE MISSED BY MANY DON
DON
USA - Fri 04/12/2002

Good morning! I found my uncle's obituary this morning, in the Cape Cod Chronicle. My father was born on the cape on Seaview St. He says the house is still there. I would like for anyone with any information on my family to contact me, as my father and I plan a trip there to see some relatives. My great-grandfather was Prince Harding Goodspeed, and my grandmother was Eliza Jane Goodspeed Bloomer. My grandfather was Arthur E. Bloomer, Sr. and my father is Arthur E. Bloomer, Jr. My great uncle Percy Goodspeed just died at home in Chatham on April 3, 2002. My great aunt Helen Goodspeed still lives at the home in Chatham. My grandmother always told me that I look just like her (my aunt Helen) when she was younger.Anyone wanting to write with any information is more than welcome, and I hope to hear something from someone very soon. We plan a trip up there in the next few months, although I think the fall or winter would be wonderful. Thank you for any information or communication at all! (p.s. I have subscribed to the Cape Cod Chronicle, to be sent to me here in Virginia Beach:)
Linda Karen Bloomer Klante <kkhislight7880@cox.net>
Virginia Beach, VA USA - Fri 04/12/2002

is there anything fun goping on in chatham or anywhere on the cape this weekend
Lizzie Matteson
RI USA - Fri 04/12/2002

Hilda, Hope I didn't insult you! I know you are a generation younger than those two, but, if you look at the photo on page 100 of "Weathering A Century of Change", by Robert D. B. Carlisle, you'll see all ages standing out in front of the old First National Store, with their coupons, waiting in line to buy groceries. Reading back earlier on this CHATroom, you'll find an entry from Diana Nickerson Lapham, saying that she thinks even SHE is in the photo! And, CONGRATULATIONS on becoming a great-grandmother!! Ralph, you are certainly right about Robert - his signs ARE all over town, and I even sent him a card telling him how dare he spend time being sick!!! Your wife is very fortunate, having a husband who loves to cook. I'll bet you are a wonderful one, too, seeing as how that good cooking seems to run in the Stello family! Best regards, Jane
Jane Harding Patterson <Clam Fetcher@aol.com>
W. Chatham, MA USA - Thu 04/11/2002

Hilda, As an old friend and classmate of Georgia I am so glad to hear your news. I bet she will be tall and handsome like her grandmother and great grandmother All The Best. Wayne
Wayne Gould <alongshore2002@yahoo.com>
West Chatham, MA USA - Thu 04/11/2002

Congratulations on your great-grandmotherhood, Hilda!
Carol Sharland
Glens Falls, NY USA - Thu 04/11/2002

Hilda! Life does turn some good hands once in awhile,A very BIG CONGRATULATIONS to you.Trust me,Georgia and John both know!!Hugs, T.
Tim Pennypacker <capejustice@hotmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 04/10/2002

Linda, I remember Miss Ayers. Wasn't she one of three sisters? For some reason my grandfather Spencer Loveland referred to her as Piccolo Pete. She may have played this instrument. Regards, Ralph
Ralph Stello jr. <rstello@jobson.com>
West Orange, NJ USA - Wed 04/10/2002

Don't know what picture you are talking about with Mary Ella and Reliance Howes, but I doubt that it is Hilda TRAINA because those ladies are in the generation ahead of me. I certainly realize today that I am not young for I have just discovered that I am a GREAT GRANDMOTHER as of yesterday. Georgia's oldest son's wife gave birth to a baby girl in Ohio ...name Chloe Georgia..too bad she is not here to see it, but thru the miracle of this computer, I was able to download it on my screen. WHOOPEE!! bEST NEWS I HAVE HAD IN SOME TIME....Hilda
Hilda <htandhb@aol.com>
Chatham, Ma USA - Wed 04/10/2002

I try to read a little from the past on here each day and try to think of new to add, It looks like the most part has been exhausted over the last years, looks like we may have to get into more modern day activities or even maybe get a neighboring town to participate. Lots of connecting memories can be given about old aquiantances in Harwich for instance,Crowells, Handlers,Marcellines,Galvines,Higgins just to name a few. one thing I haven't heard mentioned is those red target shoots hauled by the war planes, they were made of a very nice material, some of which were not available to civilians in that period. One day my father and I found one in the bay that had been shot off and had hundreds of feet of nice cable attached. There were steering cables in lots of Chatham boats made from it.
Don <DNicker332@aol.com>
S.Chatham , Ma USA - Wed 04/10/2002

Kathy that's ok...I think my mom is going to call you this week anyway I think she needs to ask u something
Lizzie <bratri143@msn.com>
Cranston, RI USA - Wed 04/10/2002

This is the first time I have been on this website but it's nice to here from people in Chatham. We have not lived there since 1980 and I went to high school there in the 50's. We will be spending the 4th of July week there so let us know what festivities are in store for us. Keith
Keith E Hammond <khamm67731@aol.com>
Palm Bch Gardens, FL USA - Tue 04/09/2002

Well, all this cooking talk has got me fired up!!! Of course, pies are the last thing I want to look at come 6 pm!! Right, Tim?? And to remind Lizzy, Marion's Pie Shop is closed on Sundays and Mondays till May so don't come knockin' at that door for those 10 pies. Choices are Sat. or Tues. This may be the very last year for this great institution of fine food. If you haven't enjoyed it yet, belly up to the bar for last call!!! Tim, I'm perfecting the sea clam pie with linguicia. Guess I'll have to keep some of these recipes handy. I'm predicting some casual pool parties at the "compound" this summer. Diane, look forward to seeing you this Sept. Hi to all.
Kathy Nowak <pies@ifriendly.com>
USA - Tue 04/09/2002

Ok just to let everyone know I am making an appearance in Chatham on Monday afternoon and yes kathy i do need like 10 of those pies. I will stop in a friend of mine owns a store in town and Im going to plymouth with my boyfriend. I will probably stop in and see everyone I need to go see scott also im having neice and nephew with drawals. Ok Ill talk to everyone soon
Lizzie Matteson <bratri143@msn.com>
Cranston, RI USA - Tue 04/09/2002

Hey Tim, how have you been? I thought of you on Saturday as I drove past your old house by the Lights. It looks like a small New Jersey subdivision over there! I had my dad with me and had to slow to a snail's pace and do some major rubber-necking to take it all in. It also looks like two houses were torn down, I thought that would never happen in that neighborhood. My dad was telling me stories about all of the houses he painted over the years as we passed them along Bridge Street. He had a couple of good ones involving your dad and Noble Cathcart, whose house he painted a few times. There certainly is a lot of history along those streets and lanes, I really miss it. Best regards, Ralph
Ralph Stello Jr. <rstello@Jobson.com>
West orange, NJ USA - Mon 04/08/2002

Hi Linda, thanks. I check this site from time to time lately but have had little to say and less time to say it! I'll try and contribute more frequently. Actually,I thought about e-mailing you and Betsy since you're both long time residents of the great state of Maine. I'm planning a trip there this summer with my family and was wondering if you'd mind recommending places to visit and things to do. If you have a few minutes to send me info c/o my e-mail address I'd really appreciate it. Jane, Johnny was a decent cook as was Phil. Phil could also bake incredible desserts. He used to bake pies, cream puffs, eclairs, etc.. My dad and Quido also hold their own in the kitchen. I had considered becoming a chef even after working for Mary Hamilton at the Cranberry Inn summers during highschool. I do most of the cooking at home, although after my wife had our second child she commented that it was nice that one of us still had time for a hobby! I tend to go for the most difficult food preparation which keeps me at the market and in the kitchen for hours, even whole weekends! I saw Robert at Quido and Alberta's last Saturday. He seems to be doing well after his surgery. With all the signs he has around town I don't see how he has time to be sick! Regards to all, Ralph
Ralph Stello Jr. <rstello@jobson.com>
West Orange, NJ USA - Mon 04/08/2002

Ah! Ralph,music to me eyes boy, good to see you back!Tust all is well and Manga,Manga!T.
Tim Pennypacker <capejustice@hotmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 04/08/2002

Ralph,You are making me hungry!!!!! Mmmmm, I can smell those aromas coming out of his kitchen, now!! He did love to cook. And I think Johnnie inherited some of his cooking talents, as I had pasta e' fagioli at his house a long time ago. And, I think some of those talents were passed down to Mike and Rob, as well. And, I know Pat (my husband) can attest to his skills in making beer and wine! Jane
Jane Harding Patterson
USA - Mon 04/08/2002

Hilda; Here are houses in my neighborhood around 1945 or so. Starting at Main Street and Old Harbor Rd. West side; Roland Snow, Otis Howes, Louis Bakewell, Roscoe Gould, John Devine, Tom Corrigan.:East Side:Congregational church, Dr. Carroll Keene, Horace Reynolds, New England Telephone, St. Martins Masonic Lodge, Bernard Nickerson, Earl Nickerson, Frank Dill.Up to Highland Ave.,: Doane Road: South side: Merrill Doane, Floyd (Jake) Worth, North Side: Everett Davis, Vina Garvin. Hope ths small section is helpful.dd
Dick Doane <rwd25@hotmail.com>
Debary, FL USA - Mon 04/08/2002

Good to see you back in the CHATham Room, Ralph. I had been missing your stories... Does anyone else have memories of Miss Constance Ayer (we never called her anything but Miss Ayer), who dressed in a wool coat, black hair net, and horn rim glasses, used to walk from her house on Barcliff Avenue to the Post Office twice EVERY day (this was in the late 50s and into the 60s). One walk was to get the mail and the other was for exercise. I never saw her anywhere else in town. Miss Ayer lived down the street from my Grammy Reb Ryder, a few houses closer to the fish pier. She never mowed her "lawn" but had a beautiful field of wild flowers. Guess she was ahead of her time with that AND with the walking just for exercise. Welcome back from Florida, Uncle Dave and Lorraine.
Linda Boyce Stanton <plstanton@gwi.net>
Topsham, ME USA - Mon 04/08/2002

Jane, Pappy also had a pasta machine, one of the first commercial pasta makers available back in the early 1930's. He made this wooden box for it which contained the machine and many blades and attachments for making different styles of maccheroni. Every Sunday he'd make fettuchine or linguine with homemade sausage, chicken and a sauce which would simmer for hours. During the week he'd prepare things like pasta è fagioli and bake loaves of bread. Robert and Mike probably remember this, I think Johnny had the pasta machine after Pappy passed away in 1973. I also remember traveling with my family and Pappy and his pasta machine all over creation in the 50's, visiting friends off-Cape where Pappy would prepare all types of things. He was a great cook with a passion for feeding people. He also made great beer and wine. Johnny and Jean introduced my mother to my father in the early 40's, after my dad served in the Army Air Corp and was still living in Franklin, Mass. My mother had never eaten Italian food before visiting Pappy in Franklin and he taught her how to make many dishes. Ralph
Ralph Stello Jr. <rstello@jobson.com>
West Orange, NJ USA - Mon 04/08/2002

Ralph, That was the house I remember going to, your family's, on the Mill Pond, and the wonderful white kitchen and the DELICIOUS pizza coming right out of the oven! I had gone there to visit Joan and Phil, who, as I recall, were living there at the time. Yes, now I recall, the fifth brother's name was Albert. I used to hear Jean and Johnnie speak often of him, but now, of course, they aren't around to ask. Jean and the rest of the family used to refer to your grandfather as "Pappy". Glad to see you're still with us, even though we haven't seen many entries from you. Regards, Jane
Jane Harding Patterson <Clam Fetcher @aol.com>
West Chatham, MA USA - Mon 04/08/2002

Jane Harding Patterson, Albert Stello was the fifth brothers' name. Albert was a career officer in the Navy and never lived in Chatham. My grandfather Michele or Mike Stello, lived with my family for a while on Mill Pond Road and with Johnny and Jean on Seaview Street. Mike also lived in the windmill at Harbor Coves for several years before he built his house behind Jack Carr's off Olde Queen Anne Road. Regards, Ralph Stello Jr.
Ralph Stello Jr. <rstello@jobson.com>
West Orange, NJ USA - Mon 04/08/2002

fine dont anyone answer or anyhting
Lizzie Matteson <bratri143@msn.com>
USA - Mon 04/08/2002

I hate to bust in on some wonderful reminsicence but I must ask a question... Do any of you know of Frank, who buys/sells seafood (or bought/sold) in Chatham, Wellfleet....all over? He's a difficult man to track down, so any info on his latest where abouts would be very appreciated. I can be reached by the listed email address, and hope that I didn't cause any problems by posting here.... I spent the best summer of my life on the Cape, and will remember it always.
"Maryland" <mizamandajones37@aol.com>
MD USA - Sun 04/07/2002

Diane Nickerson: Maybe you should wait before you invest in the book "Image of America- Chatham". It has a lot of interesting pictures but it has a suprising amount of misinfomation as well. Such as your father's boat being owned by Franny Jones and the Chatham Light keeper being Josiah Harding when it was Josiah Hardy!! When Fox Island is viewed from the west Crow's Pond is not on the right and Bassing Harbor on the left. Its Old Harbor on the left and Bassing Harbor on the right etc. etc. People read these books and believe it as fact. It's a shame. It's our history!
Steven Nickerson <snickersonbuilding@attbi.com>
North Chatham, MA USA - Sun 04/07/2002

I am going to try to name those in the Boy Scout photo. Left to right.1st row,James Eldredge,John Masachi(sp),Murray Larkin,unknown,Robert Ruggles,Kendrick Eldredge,Walter Bloomer, Doc Keene.. 2nd row,Warren Eldredge,Richard Doane,Robert Eldredge,Skip McDougal,Jack Stacy. 3rd row,Allen Anderson,Clyde Eldredge,Richard Haskins,Ben Nickerson,Dana Mcdonald, Henry Nickerson,Dana Eldridge,Ralph Bearse, Weston Keene,Douglas Kendrick. 4th row,Phil Toabe,William Eldredge, Standing on truck,Donald Nickerson,Archie Nickerson,Fred Leighton,Bruce Eldridge,Gerard Devlin,Charles Leighton. My eyesight isn't what it used to be so there may be corrections. dd
Dick Doane <rwd25@hotmail.com>
Debary, Fl USA - Sun 04/07/2002

Steve Nick...Long time, no see....Hope all is well...yes the "Diane and Douglas "was my fathers' boat.He passed away in '56,so that picture has to be prior.Havem't seen that new book yet but will buy in the fall.Better yet,Kahty...pick me up a copy and I'll settle later..Diane
Diane Matteson Nockerson <dnick@neteze.com>
Santa Rosa, Ca. USA - Sun 04/07/2002

Diana, Some others in the picture besides Mary Ellis are Reliance Olson; the lady with the goiter, cant think of her name, but Carol Kelley named her fairly recently on here; and I wondered whether the lady standing next to Reliance is Hilda Trains (IS it, Hilda?), and whether the young boy in the extreme left might be Charlie Pelletier who was killed when the Chatham Furniture van he was riding in turned over up in W. Harwich back in the late 40's...(?) My mother told me that she used to get up at 3:00 in the morning and go down there and stand in line to get items with her coupons. Regards, Jane
Jane Patterson <Clam Fetcher@aol.com>
W. Chatham, MA USA - Sun 04/07/2002

Diane Nickerson:There is a picture in the new book"Image of America-Chatham" that shows two boats tied up in the south jog of the pier. The name of one of the boats is "Diane & Douglas". Is that your father's boat? In the caption the author says it was Franny Jones's???
Steven Nickerson <snickersonbuilding@attbi.com>
North Chatham, MA USA - Sun 04/07/2002

David,I ment(formerly)it's early morning and only one cup of coffee.(No reflection on my two years in Chatham Public Schools of course!)
tim pennypacker
USA - Sun 04/07/2002

David Walker:Craig Bradley is no longer around Chatham;both Vernon and Evelyn have passed on and I don't know where poor Hugh ended up.However,one brother still remains in town, Keith is in Real Estate on the lower Cape.The Stage Harbor Inn(formally "Rose Acres")ran for a few more years under different ownership and then went bankrupt,later subdivided and sold off as house lots by a bunch of Barristers from Boston.Cheerio! T.
Tim Pennypacker <Capejustice@hotmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 04/07/2002

In summer 1971 I was the limey who worked the desk at the Stage Harbor Motor Inn overlooking Oyster Pond. I then returned to college in England. ("Summer of '42" had nothing on the Summer of '71!) Anyone remember it? I know the area is houses now but what happened? Is Craig Bradey still in Chatham?
David Walker <dlw01@btopenworld.com>
London, England - Sat 04/06/2002

Gordon: Nice having you back in the Chat room if my memory serves me these are the names that I think are in that picture. Correct me if I am wrong- Bev & Barb N ?? Maybe a Forgeron, Paul Karr, maybe Esther L, Pam Tuttle,think that might be me??? Joan R, Davina R. Would that be Mrs Ellis in the line and one of the Dubis's in the front??? Maybe some of you others can identify some of the other people. Diana
Diana
USA - Sat 04/06/2002

Depot St. Young was Orick, not Oren. At one time he had a boat moored in the Oyster Pond, painted red. I'm not sure that it ever sailed. I hear that it was nicknamed "LIGHTSHIP". Orick was a veteran of WW2 Murmansk runs, and often spoke of visiting Scotland during those trips. He was, for me, a real gentleman. He helped me learn how to mend "twine" when I was new to Scottish Seining. I earlier had the pleasure of working alongside him (in either 1958 or 1959) aboard one of the Jones' trap boats. Others in the crew..Albert "Handler" Young, Carroll "Cack" Young, Bill "Willy Dipnet" Farris, Warren "Tack" Young, and Walter "Hungry" Young. Some of the good natured shenanigans they pulled were downright funny...examples, lunchboxes nailed to the twineshed floor...spikes put into makcerel so that the poor unsuspecting filleter would ruin his knife, etc. Fran Jones, correct me if I'm wrong.
Bob Ryder <bryder@c4.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Sat 04/06/2002

Gordon Pratt....about 20 years ago,I went to visit Yarmouth Nova Scotia ,stopped in a Chrismas shop,immediately the owner recognized my Mass. accent.Upon several questions we both discovered we were from Cape Cod and it ended up being The Caton girl,I believe it was the same that you knew.She was a sister to Johnny Caton of the garage on edge of ball field and aunt to the Johnny Caton that J.M.P.and I went to school with.I have run into several peoplr her in Northern Ca. that have been in my mother's pie shop. The world keeps getting smaller all the time!! Diane
Diane Matteson Nickerson <dnick@neteze.com>
Santa Rosa, Ca. USA - Sat 04/06/2002

I can see Roy Gurley plain as day, though it was 50 years ago or more, standing just North of the fish pier, blowing on the back of his hands, giving me Hell for borrowing his dory without permission.
Bob Ryder <bryder@c4.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Sat 04/06/2002

To Georgia Robbins Jeffery...I am Dan Eldredge son of Nate (from the First National Store) and Terry (seamstress/dressmaker) Eldredge..we lived on Pond View Avenue when I was a kid and later moved to 'the country'...South Chatham, that is. Still live in S.Chatham. In fact, as some of the ladies from the past are mentioned, I remember many of them standing, WELL COVERED but nonetheless in their 'finest lacy's', in our living room being fitted by my mom....of course, we were supposed to be playing and minding our own business. I made it my business to sneak a peek when I could get away with it. I remember one lady in particular...ahhhh, shall we say I didn't think her feet would get wet in the rain???
DAN <CPCODDER@capecod.net>
- Sat 04/06/2002

Tim !! You are aware that "CHINA JOSH" was my grandfather...right ??
Gordon Pratt <jgpratt@attbi.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 04/05/2002

Crowell Rd intersection with Orleans road going south east Mr Paterson (worked for RCA) Stedmans, Worthings Praga/Sparks, then Charlie and Betty Tripp, next Mr. O'Dell,Ken Robinson (Robinson Florist) next Goerge Robertson.all the way to Acme Laundry coming back north west on opposite side. Freddie P's farm/Liskas, Old Tripp homestead, my grandmother was born there I hear,next Grews,then Golliers boat house (Ken Robinsons father in law) Landry's, Mrs Morrison, Ben Nickerson and my Grandfather William Henry Nickerson, next Etta Cliffords old house, next Crowell house that Jared was asking about, then Goe W. Nickersons cottage with Palmers in rear near water, Masons/Summers and at Town Landing was Jack Summers and Ernie and Lizzie Morrel. Way up to Christopher Ryder House then Ralph Basset Across st coming back, Old House--? then Youngs farm ,Raymonds .Dr. Brown. back to Caves the Hunter Fosters an Jannette Dyberg to radio station that about covers Chatham port except the Crows Pond area and someone else can do that I hope.
DON
USA - Fri 04/05/2002

To Dan (Dan who?)Yes, that was Bathsheba Farris,Ellen's mother-in-law, my aunt, and mother of Muriel, Barbara,Bill & Bob Farris. She did live in the "block" for a few years.Also the Brent family lived on the other side up over where the Chatham Trust used to be. Jean (married name??) Junior and another dau.were a part of the Brent family. I wonder if those apartments are rented now too. They must be. Good luck, Hilda, in the tremdous undertaking of doing the map.This CHAT is sure on a roll right now, keep it moving. Georgia
Georgia Robbins Jeffrey <gjeffrey@conknet,com>
Webster, NH USA - Fri 04/05/2002

Yeah, GORDON you got everyone correctly..addition from Normie Nickerson to Nickerson Lumber..nothing because it was the old railroad tracks and then up to the station. Do you think if everyone took a street and placed all the names the way you have and gave their description an approximate date would that help in our endeavors.?"?Hilda
Hilda <htandhb@aol.com>
Chatham, Ma USA - Fri 04/05/2002

Hilda...You might have to help me with the homes on OLD ACADEMY ROAD....Balfore was bought by Sampson..Next was Ben Bassett..Next was Bob Thompson..then came Francis Doane..Coming back the other way was Normy Nick..then Ken Bloomer..then Charlie Bladen..then John Caton, (his daughter had a crush on me, so she said !!)..then Lyman and Viva Nickerson..then Ray Eldredge sold to my father and mother, Ken and Louise Pratt Now let's go to Souzas Circle..going in on the left was Joe Souza..then Sherm Sylva rented to my folks..then Carroll and Esther Bearse..then Joe and Pauline Lucas..coming back down the other side of the street was PeeWee Youngs folks I can't remember their names..sorry...then the building on main street across from Joe Souza upstairs lived Thomas Rogers a playmate of mine and Herbs, who was killed by his mother because she did not want him to have to go into the military. My father was the second person on the scene and he called the ambulance... If I think of some more, I will submit..My best to you..Gordon.. To Diana ...I will look at the book of which you speak and see if I can name our classmates...also in regards to saving grease for the war effort, how about saving the tinfoil off the cigarett pacs, making them into a large ball and then turning them into Eldredges garage for collection..and those blackout curtains on the window of that special room where the entire family gathered during a practice air-raid..the black cones that my father helped install on all the street lights in Chatham..and painting the top half of the head-lights on the car... See ya...Gordon..
Gordon Pratt <jgpratt@attbi.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 04/05/2002

Hey Dick D.! Thanks for the kudos...funny thing... I was waiting in line for my autographed copy of the book, thinking surely there would be old memories awaiting, never dreaming the So. Chatham photo would be there....my first time seeing it, by the way. Now that extra pounds, faded looks and gravity have occurred, it's like seeing someone completely foreign! Great book, isn't it? Janet did a super job. Looking forward to seeing you next year at our 50th reunion!!!!!! Nancy
Nancy Ryder Petrus <nansea123@attbi.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 04/05/2002

To all contributors: MY GOD!..I've bitten off more than I can chew! Since I made my offer, this Chatroom is on a roll and all the data submitted seems to be correct. I think I have to figure out a way to get some help in compiling this info unless Dave is willing to print it by the year or month...for which we should pay him . ALSO IF YOU ARE WILLING TO BUY THIS STUFF, PLEASE LET HIM KNOW SOMEHOW SO THAT HE WILL CONSIDER DOING SO. I may be able to bring this off if I get some help...like one person in each section agreeing to do that part of town. Any suggestions?"?? Incidentally, the "tall woman" (his wife) always walked about 6 or 7 steps behind Charlie Deek...do you suppose they were Arabians??? We used to see them every morning from Annie Eldredge's classroom..think we were in the 8th grade. All for now...Hilda
Hilda <htandhb@aol.com>
Chatham, Ma USA - Fri 04/05/2002

Carol: I did get those pictures of Sam Harding, Thank you, they're great pictures. I got my copy of "Chatham" on Easter Sunday, my grandparents bought it for me (Thank You). It's a great book with lots of pictures that I've never seen before. -Jared
Jared Fulcher <nativecapecod45@hotmail.com>
West Chatham, MA USA - Fri 04/05/2002

Has everyone seen the new book out "Images of America-Chatham" by Janet M. Daley. I received my copy yesterday. Some great old photos!! Nancy--You looked real sharp in the 'Silver City Cabaret' in So. Chatham! Check out the photo of Boy Scout Troop 71 in the photo room. I bet a lot of Chatroom regulars can identify a lot of the group. Another good photo of Dr. Keene, doing what he did best....Guiding Chatham youth.
Dick Doane <rwd@bitstorm.net>
Debary, FL USA - Fri 04/05/2002

The Mr. Young on Depot Rd had a wife...named Mary....also a tall woman....I remember she always wore the same elaborate braided hair style. Might have attended daily mass at Holy Redeemer....It seems I remember her being very faithful. Do you all remember the apartments over the brick block? My gramma Lillian Eldredge (Donny Potato, Natalie) lived up there...to my little kid legs the stairways were enormous to climb. A lady named 'Bash-be'? lived across the hall from my gram....could she be Bathsheba... Elf's mother/sister??? Also the Porter's and the Lucas's lived there at that time. What kind of monthly rents would be typical 35 or 40 years ago??? I carried many jugs of kerosene up those stairs to fuel my gram's oil heater. My gramma would take me downstairs and Jane's mom and/or sister who ran the soda fountain would make me a vanilla coke and a hot dog. I don't know if those spaces are lived in now or not....would seem a shame to have them empty in light of the current housing shortage. dan
DAN
- Fri 04/05/2002

Nancy! Your two cents worth was really worth $5.00 You're at the head of the class!!Thanks,T.
Tim Pennypacker <capejustice@hotmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 04/05/2002

Hi Diane: Charlie Deek lived on Queen Anne Road, across from a small cemetary. Barry Fulcher is correct. Oren Young (aka "Dink") lived near Beanie on Depot Road. Maybe Dink and Deek would be a source for confusion? Lookin forward to seeing you at the next CHS Class of 57 reuinion. You'll be here in September, right? Best Regards from North Eastham
Richard G. Ryder <rgryder@attbi.com>
North Eastham, USA - Fri 04/05/2002

One thing I remember about Elsie ( Charlie Deke's wife) was that she must have bought all her shoes at rummage sales and they were always too small - so she just cut the toes out to make more room. I think that's why she walked the way she did - kinda funny - like her feet hurt. Steve Smith was certainly one great person. Ron and I were involved in the Chatham Athletic Assoc when our kids were in school. We took in ballplayers for several years and were very faithful in attending the games. One of the years the all star game was played at Fenway we took our kids and went up for the day. Steve was there to root for the Cape League. I asked him if he was going to say a prayer for them and his reply was, "hell no, I'm retired now - they're on their own." Typical Steve remark. The other night we were sorta meandering down memory lane and talking about some of the old homes that are no longer on Main Street and Nadja Johnson's house came to mind. We called it Nadja purple. Remember it? She really must have loved purple. I think it was right about where the liquor store and the first Cumberland Farms store(now the pottery or glass blower's shop)are. That was a nice house if you could get past the purple......
Carol Kelley <kelleygamoo@aol.com>
West Chatham, USA - Fri 04/05/2002

By the way, this place sure was active Thursday! That map is going to be quite an undertaking, Hilda!
Carol S.
G.F., NY USA - Fri 04/05/2002

I found the photo of Gladys Atwood, and it is now up in the Photo Album. Camille told me Gladys was a "trip", and the photo sure shows she had a good sense of humor! Jared: did you get the photos I sent you of Samuel Harding - one that is of him for sure, and the other a ?? When I was a kid, I seem to recall a rose arbor that extended from the Queen Anne Inn down its sloping lawn to the Oyster Pond. I always thought it was very romantic, but I saw they did away with it later.
Carol Sharland <sharlandcarol@hotmail.com>
Glens Falls, NY USA - Fri 04/05/2002

Hilda- Sounds like a huge undertaking, but well worth it. Hope you get lots of help. I will try to give some. Don Nickerson- Going further South on Crowell Rd. past the Gregorian house there was a small place where Paul & Margret Karr once owned/lived. Also Hollis & Rae Fairchild (WCC). Across the street was an old barn where Freddie P stored hay. Don- Do you remember the very old Evenrude outboard powerhead you got from me, way back???? Might have been a 1912 model???? I remember Chet's radio in his wheelbarrow. Sorry Folks-I had lots of schoolhouse, but not much smartning! Don Macintosh
Gordon "Don" Macintosh
USA - Thu 04/04/2002

Hi Tim! You really started something!! Just to add to the fun....."Red" Griswold, mechanic down at the Chatham Texaco Station in the '60s....(wonder how I knew?) Loved his "cheer"...goodhearted..Allie Hunter, lived on Mill Pond Road, lived to be one of Chatham's oldest citizens..."Cowboy" Bill O'brien, who sang on WOCB wrote a song about him and Chatham ...We have the record...Johnny Stello lived with him for years when he first came to Chatham, and when he and my cousin, Jean, were first married, they lived with him for awhile, and I used to go and visit. Mike "Pappy" Stello was John's, Phil's, Ralph's, and Quido's dad...(one more brother, cant remember his name)...short fellow with bald head. He lived down on Mill Pond with his son's Phil and Ralph...he introduced me to homemade pizza!!- the first pizza I ever set my teeth into...can remember it now, delicious, thick crust...In his latter years he lived in a small house up off Stepping Stones Road. Mike, Rob and Karen Stello's granddad(plus more cousins)Stello Cleverdon and her husband, oh, god, my mind's a blank..whatever his first name was, used to live in an apartment over what is now The Artful Hand on corner of Main St. and Mill Pd. Road. My Aunt Dorothy and Uncle Kenneth Kendrick were very good friends of theirs. Mr. Cleverdon always wore a huge-brimmed hat. After he passed away, back in the early '50s, my father built a new house for Stella up on Seaview Street. It was the next house on same side of street where Johnnie and Jean lived. The house has been sold numerous times and been remodeled....Stella was very soft-spoken, and, as I recall, always wore longish dresses and hats....Remember going to their upstairs apartment with my mother to visit them. And, last, but not least, let me add to Nancy's remarks about Steve Smith, our Methodist minister, that he was certainly a great man who did enjoy having fun with us all. My first trip ever to Boston was with him and the MYF to Boston Garden to the rodeo when I was thirteen. He used to drive up to South Chatham and pick up kids all along the way back down to Chatham on Wednesday evenings to attend choir rehearsal. Does anyone remember Chet Cahoon's brother, Pat, Stanley Gunderson, Freeman Ellis, Jimmy Allison, Margaret McBride, Joe McBride.....??? How about those square dances at the South Chatham Village Hall during the summers back in the early '50s? All for now.....Jane
Jane Harding Patterson <Clam Fetcher@aol.com>
West Chatham, MA USA - Thu 04/04/2002

Kathy its me Lizzie....Craig's daughter lol i emailed you....ok well i got screamed at for leaving the cape without a strawberry rheubarb pie the last time I was at Scott's so Im going to have to come see you guys soon..Im having Chatham withdrawls which is really weird
Elizabeth Matteson <bratri143@msn.com>
Cranston , RI USA - Thu 04/04/2002

Fran says the guy with the wheelbarrow was Chet Cahoon and that Charlie "Deek" had the tall wife, Elsie. Ruth
Jean Jones <jjra@capecod.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 04/04/2002

Diane had a "heavy foot"???? Must run in the family.
Kathy Nowak <pies@ifriendly .com>
USA - Thu 04/04/2002

Hi Diane Matteson Nickerson. I think the man you were referring to that lived beside Beanie Eldridge was Oren Young. He use to wear heavy black sunglasses all the time. Also, the guy that walked everywhere with the tall wife was Charlie 'Deke'and his wife Elsie. Use to walk downtown to go grocery shopping. She carried 2 shopping bags and he carried the newspaper. I remember you as being the fastest female in the class of '57'. You could drive your mother's Buick from Chatham to Orleans stoplight in 9 minutes flat. A feat I've tried to duplicate many times and always failed. I think you straightened all the curves out when you were on the road.
Barry <barsyl4041@netzero.net>
Naples, FL USA - Thu 04/04/2002

Info regards to sections of Chatham in years gone by. Northwest Chatham or South Chatham; better known in years past as East Harwich. Along Rte 137 going towards E Harwich was the one house on the right past what is now the Catholic church. The next building in the late 30's early 40's was Charlie Chase (Harwich Machine Shop now for years). Alonzo Nickerson, (father of Harwich Police Chief Conrad) Where the Country Store is (am not sure if that is still the name of such) was Randolp Youngs store, for years the South Chatham post office was located in there) I think cousin Don N wrote about the white colored chocolates that he sold!!!! Coming back towards 28 was Mill Hill Road. For many years the only houses in there was my grandfather's and ours, Josie D as he was sometimes called had the Dairy farm. Later the Mill Hill Poultry Farm was started. Further in was the old Bearse's house. Both of these houses were built in the 1800. Please make any corrections to this.
Diana (Nickerson) Lapham
Bonita Springs, FL USA - Thu 04/04/2002

Tim....CRS has set in....meant to say Allie was FATHER to, not Mother! NRP
Nancy Ryder Petrus <nansea123@attbi.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 04/04/2002

Hi Diane thank you so much for teeling me about the room...we will have to get back together again so you can see me all grown up...love you all
Elizabeth Matteson <bratri143@msn.com>
Cranston , RI USA - Thu 04/04/2002

Listing the Chatham Police Dept. on or about 1950, Chief Rollins,Lt Buck, Patrolmen, Ben Nickerson, Charlie (buster) Jones, Johnny Wagner, Red Harding, Dave Nick, anyone else think of another ? I would also like to make a fond mention of another great leader of young men ,That was Sherm Sylva, He and his wife Priscilla,Daughter Shirl(now deceased 2001)his son Rusty. Along with Doc Keene and Boy Scouts I have many memorable moments with him leading the Sea Scouts.
Don
USA - Thu 04/04/2002

Hilda....I can remember living on Crowell Rd when it was called Branch Street,downstairs in that big house on left.We were down and the Martels' were upstairs.I used to ride thru all that area on the milk delivery truck with the milkman,one of which was Walter Eldredge who was married to Betty Blackman of Blackmans' Resturant whe my mother was the cook.Remember Nellie Rogers down on Oyster Pond with her Irish Brogue? I remember meeting your mother at my grandmothers',and your father delivering our mail, when we moved to West Chatham,that was just 50 years ago....I remember when the alms' house was on Crowell Road where Monomy Phaemacy is now.Up Depot was the Fraisers on the left,then Beanie Eldredge,then The guy who used to have a wheelbarrow that he took everywhere.My name memory is fading!!!On the right was the Harold Bassett'(Freddie and Louise)and then Alonzo Eldredge on the left and then Nickerson Lumber.THe guy with the wheelbarrow was a Young, and had a tall wife and they walked everywhere.Diane
Diane Matteson Nickerson <dnick@neteze.com>
Santa Rosa, Ca. USA - Thu 04/04/2002

Hilda, part II of your and Harvey's "tour" of old chatham is on 3/9/01 in the archived section of this chatroom. Part I is probably in January 2001 when Dave Johnson decided to give us our own room and moved everything over from the guestbook. Bravo for undertaking the mapping task. When I'm there next, I'll see what sort of records they have at the Atwood House. Lisa
Elizabeth Tuttle Edge <etedge@farrlawnet.com>
Cherry Hill, NJ USA - Thu 04/04/2002

OK Hlda Crowll Rd heading south from Orleans Road as late as 1950. Mrs.Kozac, Mother of Inez Worthing (Worthing Kennels) then George Nickerson, former tax collector, then George and Helen McLean, next Flora Ryder, Then Arthur T Gregorian next Willma Doane across from him at time I believe was Coby Nickerson and as far as I go is LLoyd Doane caretaker of CBI. This is a start for your old map good luck, should be fun Don
DON
USA - Thu 04/04/2002

ok guys my mom said hi!!!! :-) auntie she said i can go up there this summer even if I convince my boyfriend to rent a house lol Lizzie
Elizabeth Matteson <bratri143@msn.com>
RI USA - Thu 04/04/2002

Jared I havent talked to him in awhile with school and all but i will call him and ask him maybe my auntie betsy knows
Elizabeth Matteson <bratri143@msn.com>
Cranston , RI USA - Thu 04/04/2002

Correction please . It was Earl Sailor Allen not Earl Anderson in my last writing, Brain cramp or old timers i guess Thanks Sylvia for that. Don
Don
USA - Thu 04/04/2002

OK, Tim....just have to add my two cents worth! SOPHIE SAUNDERS, pie maker, baker, seller in South Chatham. In today's world, it is doubtful she would pass Roberta Gough's Board of Health inspection! STEVE SMITH, beloved Methodist minister....made religion fun for kids. Took our youth group (MYF) places we might never have otherwise gone i.e. Boston Garden, Boston Marathon, even to visit inmates in jail! Would turn the lights out at our meetings and join us in games of "Spin the Bottle"! RICHIE HAMILTON, white painters pants by day, Cranberry Inn helper at night. Married to Mary....mother to Janice, Judy, Jane and June. Never missed a CHS basketball game! FRANKIE DILL, shuffling down Old Harbor Road to Main Street, hands in pockets, to Eldredge's Garage where court was held at the "hot stove club". BILL BALFOUR, lived down the street from me and one Halloween my friend and I knocked on his door for a treat and he came to the door with 2 rotten bananas in a basket, pleading with us not to "trick" him! BURNELL HARDY (or was it Harty?), God love him....his mother had to call me most every night for the homework assignment. His mind was on cars, not school! CLARA CUSHING, owner of "Clara's" in South Chatham......cigarette in mouth, working the grill, never skipping a beat while casting a sideling glance at those waiting for food. Did she ever smile? Seldom! ALLIE GRIFFIN, married to Elizabeth, mother to Wayne, Bob, Dick, Jim, Ginny and Joyce....fun loving, musical, energetic! Always remember him from the fishermen's dances at the Legion on School Street. REB RYDER, now there is not enough time or room to tell about this lady. Born on the island of Nantucket, married to Richard E. (Chief of Old Harbor Station), widowed young. Beloved mother (Richard Allen, Arethusa, David, William and Emily), grandmother and great grandmother. Born in 1883 and died in 1988. Known for her strength, tenacity, cooking, friendship, Nantucket sayings. One of my favorites was when you were pretty full of yourself she would say "Well, you deserve a leather medal!" I loved it when she baby sat us for we knew upon arriving home from school there would be a pan of her famous "Hard Gingerbread" and we could eat all we wanted!Enough for now. Nancy
Nancy Ryder Petrus <nansea123@attbi.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 04/04/2002

Tim Pennypacker, Thanks for the fond memories of my father, Kenneth Atwood. He loved the Cape, even if his time in the south 'corrupted' his speach. All of you folks there made his retirement years back on the Cape most joyous...He loved to fish and oft told me 'Jim Hardy' tales.What a treat it was for me, when on visits there,Harvey Bloomer would leave treasures from the sea at the back door for our dinner. Wish I had some lobster now now. My sister from Little Rock, and her husband, are now retired to the house on Stage Harbor Rd.Thanks for fond memories. Thanks to others of you, I enjoy reading the comments and love seeing the pictures.Am looking for an OLD town map of Chatham. Can any on come up with one??Mid-early 1800s or before?? Happy Spring. Camille
Camille Atwood <atwoodcamille@hotmail.com>
Norfolk, Va USA - Thu 04/04/2002

Then there was Lucy Doane - the lady with the huge goiter and her brother Roy Speight who lived on Orleans Road where Braodreach is today. Next door (in the back) lived Charlie and Lena Sparks. After Roy died they inherited his house and could be seen nightly sitting on the front porch watching the world go by. Earl and Ruth Baker lived in the house in front of Charlie and Lena. "Bake" always had a cigar in his mouth and he loved tooting around his yard in a broken down old tractor. We used to play cards with them and we would watch the sun come up. I can't believe we actually stayed up all night playing Canasta. They had no children - a parakeet was their child and boy oh boy could that bird talk. Those four people would fall into the Chathamport "characters". All very nice people though and we have fond memories of them. Our first house was where the Liberty Commons sign is.
Carol Kelley <kelleygamoo@aol.com>
West Chatham, USA - Thu 04/04/2002

To all contributors....a message from the old gal again this morning. If you want to locate old streets and people, you have to have a central clearing house...I am willing to be such...will try to put this map together using the different sections of town. It could get to be a little large, but lets try it...send in your knowledge to this site and I will see what I can do...this has to be people and streets where they lived. Anyone who has corrections, can do so by sending them in to this site. Might be fun to try it. Start off your contributions under the following headings: North Chatham: Chathamport: Village: West Chatham: South Chatham: and Chatham central: and to Tim Pennypacker...I knew most of the people you mentioned. While Harvey and I were living in Florida...about 2 years ago..we did this by running down Main Street from Lumpkin's to Mayflower in the 30's..unfortunately we entered it in the Guestbook and I guess it is gone forever now. Send in your names and streets and I will keep you informed as to what progress I make. I bet you all see a difference in the traffic already. If I don't quit fooling around with this E/M today, I will never get my bills paid!!!!Hilda
Hilda <htandhb>
Chatham, Ma USA - Thu 04/04/2002

Names in the news of yesteryears. L.V. Eldredge, George Robertson, janitor at school also they had a convience store on Orleans Road where Fougere's is today.Bill Forest, janitor at school,Joe Sousa ,shop teacher,he cut of a finger while teaching saftey on table saw . Earl Anderson, the cigar smoking man from Ford Motors, by the way he was the first driver of the leaping Ford in the parade years back.One that always makes me smile to think about was Joe Speight, he was a caracter, He caught for years for the town team. showed up in Harwich slightly under the weather to play for the championship, and last but not least Chet Cahoon.Do not have to describe him.
Don <DNickerson>
USA - Thu 04/04/2002

Elizabeth Matteson: My name is Jared Fulcher and I'm 14. My dad, Brian and your dad used to scallop together and just hang out. If you get in touch with him, could you ask him where the audio tapes of all the old fishermen from Chatham went to (My dad wants to know). Thanks, Jared
Jared Fulcher <nativecapecod45@hotmail.com>
West Chatham, MA USA - Thu 04/04/2002

Lisa!Gold Star for you!Those folks were a real part of our growing up.Danny,that may have been Goerge Lake your thinking of.He lived lived on Hallett Lane behind the Little Taven(Port Fortune)He was married to Elizabeth S.Lake,former Town Clerk.Never could figure out how those two got together.Lisa,was George Lake an offspring of Charlie Lake? Maybe no relation,I don't know.
Tim Pennypacker <capejustice @ hotmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 04/04/2002

I remember Daisy Day...she always had a brand new car and I thought what a bargain her used cars must be......she always drove around town at about 20 mph...and they couldn't have many miles on 'em either. Another name I remember from that list is Jessie North.....I knew her when she lived with Ma Haven and another lady in Harbor Coves. Mrs. Haven used to tell me she couldn't walk, Jessie couldn't see, and the third lady couldn't hear. They got along just great! Speaking of cars....who was the man who drove an old (red I think) Corvair with a rusting out floor....every time I saw him he was sitting lower and lower behind the wheel...any day I expected him to fall out from under the car. dan
DAN
- Thu 04/04/2002

Tim, love the names! Daisy Day, who was a fixture at Munson Gallery for many years, moved to Chatham with two of her fellow teachers from the Kent School, Ms Hunt and Ms (the name escapes me)and lived two doors up from me on Main Street until one of the ladies died and left the house to Horace McNab, the shop teacher at the high school. While she lived there, Daisy carved and painted birds which she sold from the front sunroom of her house. Then she bought a house on Cedar Street where she lived with her mother. She was an interesting person, knew everyone. We used to stop by the gallery just to chat with her. Harold Brown had a bicycle shop on Main Street opposite Holway Street and also sold whirligigs and beach toys. Roy Gurley's wife Doris was a good friend of my mother and very active in the Eastern Star. I think they lived on Highland Avenue and had a lovely flower garden. Gray Page also lived on Highland Avenue across from the Catholic Church and was an accountant at Chase Chevrolet. His wife Eleanor was the librarian and they had two children, my good friend Judy and Stephen. Steve Smith was a very popular upbeat Methodist minister. Luther Edwards lived on the corner of Silverleaf and Water Streets and was a friend of my dad but I do not know what he did. I think Godfrey was the Forgeron who lived on Kent Place off of Cross Street, had the shoe store, and is the father of Charlotte, Annette, Sally, Joey. He came from Canada, Nova Scotia, I believe. Lisa
Elizabeth Tuttle Edge <etedge@farrlawnet.com>
Cherry Hill, NJ USA - Thu 04/04/2002

Ok I totally forgot that the rest of you are probably wondering who i am. My name is Elizabeth Matteson. Im 21 years old. Craig Matteson is my dad and Kenny and Betsey are my aunt and uncle. Diane and Kathy are my cousins and of course u all know helen and ken were my grandparents. Ive been reading all the past entries so Im sure you sll know my relatives. I actually moved from chatham when i was 2 but ive been itching to get back there. One of my older brother's still lives there and Im trying to convince my bf to rent a house down there....Better keep convincing:-) I am currently a student at Johnson and Wales and graduating in may then changing my major. Either to early childhood education or nursing Ok well I had to sit through 4 hours of a mind numbing economics class tonight so I think I am ready to sleep. Ill visit the site often so keep in touch....To all my family....dad , auntie betsy and uncle mark, uncle kenny, diane, kathy and ron,joslin .....david, scott, and curtisand to those family members that passed away...i love you and i hope we all keep in touch....my email is bratri143@msn.com or jwusweetiepie80@aol.com....and to the rest of that awesome extended family of mine (aka Chatham) also keep in touch id love to know about everyone
Elizabeth Matteson <bratri143@msn.com>
Cranston , RI USA - Thu 04/04/2002

Jane and Hilda. Thanks for your support, very much!! I lack a comprehensible map of Chatham showing streets and land, etc. But I have two suggestions? #1 Maybe we could all get together and come up with an "Old Time Map" of maybe around 1940?? So many sites have vanished. The A&P next to the Theatre, Slims & Freds garage,Acme Laundry and many more! #2 How about that huge, old estate,which was located on Ryders Cove and on the entrance of Crows Pond. Lots of stories there about the history of that place, for sure!!! From Route 28, Don Nickerson lived just behind the Antique shop and the McLeans lived next door to him. Thanks to the WEB, we can preserve some history, here. Don
Gordon "Don" Macintosh <DONVERO@WEBTV.NET>
VERO BEACH, FL USA - Wed 04/03/2002

Ok to all of you that know me....no one pass out...ITS ME!!!!! Craig's daughter lol you know the little cute one :-) I miss you guys Ill be on for a few more hours my email address is bratri143@msn.com...if u have aol add me im jwusweetiepie80 and on msn u can add me as bratri143@msn.com I hope to hear from you guys soon :-) I love you all....and Uncle Kenny i wrote you an email lol i wrote it to you and marions daughter wrote back I was all confused ...Aunt Betsey and Uncle Mark I Love you guys...and if any of my brothers read this...rememeber no matter what hapopens I AM STILL YOUR BABY SISTER love u all :-) Its 949 pm on wednesday april 3rd
Elizabeth Matteson <bratri143@msn.com>
Cranston , RI USA - Wed 04/03/2002

Hi Don: Sometimes we sit in front of our computers in awe of what people have written here on the CHATham Room, enjoying the stories to the fullest, without giving the authors credit or recognition. Forgive us and keep writing!! You have wonderful tales.
Nancy Ryder Petrus <nansea123@attbi.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 04/03/2002

Can anyone name off the members of the Class of '49 that are in the picture that is on page 100 in 'Weathering a Century of Change' It was taken in front of the First National when it was on Main street. I remember how we used to save old grease and turn it in at the store to receive saving stamps from the store. That book is really an interesting one to read and catch up on the events that took place in Chatham during the last century. If you haven't seen it I think you will find it very interesting.
Diana
USA - Wed 04/03/2002

Just to jog a few:Anyone have recollections of::China Josh, Sophie Saunders,Ernie Kendrick,Steve Smith,Ritchie Hamilton, Frankie Dill,Daisey Day,Bill Balfour,Bill Chase,Red Griswald,Allie Hunter,Eno Coleen,Manny Simas,Stella Cleverton,Nora Hammond,"Old"Mike Stello,Burnell Hardy,Jessie North,Godfrey Forgeron,Clara Cushing,Mert Rogers,Harold Brown,Miss Fay,Allie(sp)Griffin,Reb Ryder,Roy,Gurley,Luther Edwards,Grey Page?????????????????????????
Tim Pennypacker <capejustice@hotmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 04/03/2002

Dear Don, Please dont give up on the Chatroom....even though sometimes noone comments on your entries, they are enjoyed. My mother has a scrapbook which has a newspaper article about your mom raising the African Violets with a picture of her. I remember going there with my parents and seeing all of the lovely plants setting on stands around the living room, etc. I, like Hilda, remember the antique shop on the corner with the fellow in the stockade, but didn't remember what the sign said. Dont remember Freddie P., though. I guess North Chatham was too far back in those days for kids from West Chatham to venture! I have heard my mother often speak and tell stories about the Chatham Manor, which was where your house was. I think they held dance marathons there. Keep the stories coming! Regards, Jane
Jane <Clam Fetcher@aol.com>
W Chatham, MA USA - Tue 04/02/2002

It was a warm and sunny Saturday morning in Nov. and I was with my father scalloping down in the bay. He said to me, " We do not have to hurry today so you sit up there and open and fill that dinner bucket up. It is christmas time coming and we can use some extra monies." So as asked I did just that, I took out the thermos jug and filled both top and bottom.When closing it some fell out and made a delicious snack. When we got to shore with our limit Rolf Sylvan(Kathys dad)the then warden, was at the town landing nearby and wandered over to check our catch.He counted out those ten bags and was satisfied. You must remember in those days they were burlap and they had been wet down loaded with rocks and hung up to stretch. you could get at least 5 buckets in them if not a little more. Anyhow my father put them on the rail and I lugged them to the truck, he set the dinner bucket on the bow and when Mr. Sylvan turned to walk back to landing I grabbed it and head up the shore with it. Steps from the boat it broke open and some if not most of them fell on the ground. Out of the boat my father jumped and threw dry seaweed over them, Later we picked them up and washed them and all was fine,except! I kept hearing how I could have gotten him fined, arrested or lost his license, ya!!!
Don <DNicker332@aol.com>
USA - Tue 04/02/2002

I have the sign that was on the stocks, about him kissing his wife on the sabbath, in my shop on Depot Road. Quite the worse for wear, and Donna Lumpkin has a book with the picture the Conquest showing it. My old boss moved the house in '46 to either the Plum estate on the Oyster Pond, or for the Tappans, on Stage Neck. He was working on both places when I went to work for him in the fall of '46. Bob
Bob <robertmm@attbi.com>
USA - Tue 04/02/2002

Dear Donny - You refer to "a bowling alley" as being near your home. Do you mean the THE CHATHAM MANOR which was our only gym facility in those days. It was used for basketball dances and roller skating. (Tibby Dubis met Joe at that roller skating rink and wedding bells rang for them).The only CHATHAM school building also used it for dances and basketball games. Our girl's team won four championships in a row (that was back in the 30's) you are probably too young to remember those days. We played all the towns on the Cape and went to other towns in school buses..lots of necking going on in those return trips. Fran Edwards and Willard Nickerson made use of those trips which later led to wedding bells for them...so you see..life went on just as now only at a SLOWER PACE!
Hilda <htandhb@aol.com>
Chatham, Ma USA - Tue 04/02/2002

I don't know to much on the subject but I heard from Dick Kelsey that the West Chatham A&P is closing to be Chatham Ford. Thats all I know. -Jared
Jared Fulcher <nativecapecod45@hotmail.com>
West Chatham, MA USA - Tue 04/02/2002

Don and Bob, Please continue with your stories. Lots of us read this site daily. I find most of my memories involve the center of town and the village so its fun to learn about the stocks I didnt notice on Crowell Road or the adventures of people who grew up in other parts of town. Lisa
Elizabeth Tuttle Edge <etedge@farrlawnet.com>
Cherry Hill, NJ USA - Tue 04/02/2002

Thanks Hilda! The sign on the stocks said the reason he was there was because he was caught KISSING HIS WIFE ON THE SABBATH! SORRY you never visited our house. My Mother kept it like a show place. Bruce and I were forbidden to hang around the living room and Lord forbid if we touched or sat in the purple chair!! Bruce failed to master the Grand Piano, which just sat there for many years. Mom had many, prize winning African Violet plants in the living & dining rooms and loved to dress in those colors. Many folks came by to look at the plants. On the site at Adams Lane, at one time there was a bowling alley. When the alley went out of business it was torn down and the salvaged lumber was used to build the house. DON MACINTOSH
Don Macintosh <Donvero@webtv.net>
Vero Beach, Fl USA - Mon 04/01/2002

Dear Gordon - Yes, I remember the old stocks out on the lawn corner of Rt. 28 and Crowell...can't remember what they said...also remember your Mum with her love for the color "orchid.: Never was I in her home, but I heard that the inside of that house had a lot of orchid color in it too Freddie P sure was a character and I think he did a lot of stuttering also. Weather here very rainy for three days, but I won't complain...at least it is not bombs and bullets yet!! Hilda
Hilda <htandhb@aol.com>
Chatham, Ma USA - Mon 04/01/2002

Mr. Sampson.....I hope you didn't take offense....it is just people don't age when one does not see them regularly....since I haven't seen you all these years....I still think of you as Tim's dad who ran the hardware store when I was in high school (oh so long ago)and since I am doing the same job now thatI was doing when I was in high school....I haven't aged any either....yeah right....dan
DAN
- Mon 04/01/2002

BOB CHAPIN AND I have tried to add old stuff to this room. together we have many stories. So far we get almost no replys from anybody? So should we continue??? Freddie P- Bunch of us kids were hanging around by the Antique shop on Orleans Rd. & Crowell Rd. one day. We spotted Freddie westbound, heading towards us with that huge horse drawn hay wagon. We waited until he had just passed us and we all jumped onto the back for a free ride.Well our weight caused the front of the wagon to rise and disconnect. So there goes Freddie (who was very deaf) sitting on his seat on two wheels, like a harness racer. We all vanished!!!! Wagon was left sitting on the road???? The same Antique shop had a dummy in the stocks on their front lawn for many years. How many folks can remember what the sign on the stocks said???? Don Macintosh
GORDON G.'DON' MACINTOSH <DONVERO@WEBTV.NET>
VERO BEACH, FL USA - Mon 04/01/2002